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Samantha Gluck's avatar

Wow, Theodore! You've outdone yourself with this one. And, it's interesting that you would write about the Logos and how the vast majority of people don't even know what that is, much less understand it, because I've been thinking about this deeply during my daily silent times. Thank you for this!

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Theodore Atkinson's avatar

That's an interesting coincidence. I came upon it awhile ago during technical studies, at a time when I had a more bleak and mechanical view of the world, and it definitely changed my perspective. I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

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Apollo's Lyre's avatar

Hot damn, this is a fantastic read! We are truly living in a world so thoroughly constructed from a GIGO machine of lies that the average person is wholly untethered from virtually (I use the word advisedly haha) anything real and true. And to paraphrase Krishnamurti: ""It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society."

From Heraclitus to Wittgenstein, you hit all of my faves. I can only share this relevant clip from my beloved "Waking Life" in case you haven't seen it, as I think you'll quite enjoy it. The whole movie is bloody brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDGMS_tjRxU

Panta rhei, baby!

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Theodore Atkinson's avatar

I was not expecting that art style, but the clip is interesting. I'll have to check out the film.

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Apollo's Lyre's avatar

haha rotoscope is like the Spanish Inquisition, no one expects it!

But, man, Linklater's rotoscoped stuff (mainly that and Scanner Darkly) is pure genius. Great use of the surreal, protean animation style to fit surreal, protean subject matter and themes. Please do drop a note or a comment once you check out Waking Life! I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.

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Michaela McKuen's avatar

This encourages me that someone will want t read my post about logic when I make it! You mentioned several kinds of logic, but you should look up categorical logic, that one is particularly important in my opinion even though it doesn’t seem to be studied very often from the perspective of mathematical logic. It basically supersedes set theory which I think is both the hard and important part. It’s interestingly mostly used in some of the more abstract parts of computer science now.

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Theodore Atkinson's avatar

I've used categorical logic as an organizing principle to describe requirements refinement to design to implementation in regards to formal computer systems engineering, where the semantics of each refinement is entailed by its predecessor, and syntax is translated by a functor.

It's implementable in something like Haskel or OCaml, but never got around to flushing it out. I mainly focused on IEC 61131-3 translations and formal proofs satisfying formal requirements using a mealy machine model to approximate real-time sampling.

But that part of my life is over and I mostly consider the idea relative to how language affects individual behaviour. I think model theory and categorical logic is a good application to describe the mechanisms of propaganda through language.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Poetic philosophy you were on fire for that one. What a great tour de force of philosophy, history and metaphysics. I am going to hazard a guess being in nature and the more natural rhythm of life homesteading even if you are doing hard work like clearing brush, lets your mind stretch to touch the very stuff that structures the stars.

I highly recommend this one to anyone who likes lyrical metaphysical insights that bring the receipts with with knowledge of history.

So are you enjoying homestead life?

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Theodore Atkinson's avatar

You can actually see the stars at night... and hear coyotes screaming across the road.

It's funny you mention hard work, because I have a lot of big plans, but when the rubber meets the road you realize how much energy is needed to do it all. Definitely going to need some equipment. Nothing fancy, but even then it's still going to take time.

However, after the sweat dries and you take a step back, nature is doing this unimaginable labour of its own accord, and so effortlessly. I'm very humbled to recognize how grand the tapestry is, and excited to figure out how homesteading can work with it.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Glad to hear it. It's never paradise, but it's sweet nonetheless at least my set up is. Will be curious to see how it proceeds if you want to share it with us. I need to buy some fence so I can have a garden and not get it eaten by rabbits and deer.

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Theodore Atkinson's avatar

We're probably going to fence off one garden by the house (whenever we can turn the sod into garden that is), and I'm thinking of using these really annoying solar noise things for the deer. I'm using it to spook away the cats from my chicken right now, and it works for that.

I can see where their run is, so I want to spook them away from our personal garden, and lure them to a trap garden down further on their run with corn, beans, turnip, etc. I'm trying to figure out a good trap garden to real garden ratio, but I'll probably just wing it. They won't eat potatoes or tomatoes, but they'll pretty much destroy everything else.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

I know tomatoes are in the nightshade family, I tend to grow them in pots on the porch away from the other plants. I may plant a few potatoes just kind of scattered out in my yard and see if they can make it as wild plants. Probably out by where I have a nicely spreading patch of Oak tree saplings I am thinking I can get quite a few to transplant so I could in the long run have a natural fence of Oak trees along the outer edge of my land. So I get that about thinking ahead about what your land will look like, I do find I plan much more for my land being away from an urban area.

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Theodore Atkinson's avatar

Watch out for the orientation with established trees. Try to plant on the south side if possible a few feet away from the canopy vertically, because the roots will pull water and the leaves will shade out. If you can't do the south side, opt for the west side because the sun is hotter later in the day and most veggies prefer that.

Also I turned my old garden into a volunteer tomato / potato / pumpkin garden. Once you get them going they come up on their own, and you just have to transplant them so they're not too clustered.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Great idea, I love it low effort and a permanent permaculture cycle thing going. I should brainstorm how to make that happen myself.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

I have let the leaves compost for several years so I should have some actual dirt built up which is good because the soil in this area tends to be sandy which is good for draining off water but not high in organic matter nutrients, but you can grow stuff like kale, squash, lettuce and tomatoes, and basil, and at least from some fresh veggies. Better to just buy the corn from local Amish farms around here though, I am not kidding myself, I am not going to be able to grow corn like that. :-)

Anyway...

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You should check out JADAM fertilizers. They're pretty easy to make and the ingredients are weeds, manure and possibly urine if you're up to that. I wrote an article with links on how to do it, and found a database that indexes the approx. nutrient contents of different plants.

https://theodoreatkinson.substack.com/p/create-quality-homemade-fertilizers

You could do fermented stinging nettle, pigweed and potato skins for a liquid feed, and wood ash with manure to spot treat your planting sites. The leaves are really good for the soil too.

And yeah it's better to grow what works for you. Corn and grains take up a lot of space. Our goal next year is all the potatoes, tomatoes, squash and chicken we need for a year, and I'm going to try to do dehydrated veggies for soup mixes, which I demoed this year with zucchini and it works well. That's a pretty big goal, so we'll see how it goes.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Cool, if you would want to share how that plays out, I am sure I and many people find it inspiring when our friends here are making it happen in the real world.

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